45. On Planning a More Sustainable+Ambitious Year: Part 4 with Kathy Oneto

Overview

Join Kathy Oneto, host and founder of Sustainable Ambition, for a 4-part series to help you plan a more sustainable+ambitious year ahead. We’ll explore what will be stretching for you and what will sustain you.

This series coincides with the upcoming launch of the Sustainable Ambition 12-Month Workbook+Planner: Your Life+Work Resilience Rx. The workbook+planner offers inquiries, exercises, and planning tools to help you lead a fulfilling, sustainable, and ambitious life+work. Learn more at: sustainableambition.com/planner2022

First, Sustainable Ambition is aspirational. It asks us to hold two opposing ideas—sustain and stretch—at the same time. How can we sustain ourselves (sustainable), while stretching ourselves (ambition)? That implies it is a practice that calls for perspective, personalization, pacing, and patience. And that admittedly means it isn’t easy! That is where this series comes in.

Over 4-weeks, Kathy will guide you through exercises to create a plan to help you manage a more sustainable life+work over the coming months. The goal is to create awareness and structures that foster the ability to dance in our dynamic world, learning how to both stretch and sustain ourselves. How? By knowing ourselves better, defining our own Life+Work Resilience Rx (prescription), creating a plan, practicing, and progressing over time.

Here’s a review of the series and this episode is Part #4:

  • Part #1: My Ambitions: My Next 12 Months - In this first episode, Kathy shares exercises to help you set a vision and your intentions for the coming year. What are your ambitions?

  • Part #2: My Sustainable: My Life+Work Resilience Rx - In the second episode, we’ll explore what would make your life+work sustainable—what is your personal Life+Work Resilience Rx?

  • Part #3: My 12-Month Planner + 6-Month Horizon - In the third episode, we’ll pull out our calendars and create a 12-month plan considering what you need on your calendar to allow you to stretch and sustain yourself.

  • Part #4: Quarter 1 + Monthly Planning - We’ll close the series in episode four creating our aim for the first quarter of the year and setting you up to act and then assess and adapt as you reflect at the end of the first quarter to keep you operating at your best throughout the year.

Kathy will come back each quarter to do a review with you and will come back at the end of the year for a 12-month review to see what we learned about building our own life+work resilience.

While a sustainable and ambitious life+work is aspirational, the journey may not always be easy along the way. Yet, we believe we can do it and find our way. We can take back control and be in choice to build a more sustainable life+work.

Here’s to a sustainable+ambitious 2022!

P.S. If you’d like to do this work with others, consider creating a circle of friends or professional colleagues to plan and learn together. Doing this work as part of a community can support you in setting intentions, holding yourself accountable, providing encouragement, and learning together along the way. Find guides for a Planning Circle or Workshop at Work at: sustainableambition.com/planner2022

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44. On Planning a More Sustainable+Ambitious Year: Part 3 with Kathy Oneto

Overview

Join Kathy Oneto, host and founder of Sustainable Ambition, for a 4-part series to help you plan a more sustainable+ambitious year ahead. We’ll explore what will be stretching for you and what will sustain you.

This series coincides with the upcoming launch of the Sustainable Ambition 12-Month Workbook+Planner: Your Life+Work Resilience Rx. The workbook+planner offers inquiries, exercises, and planning tools to help you lead a fulfilling, sustainable, and ambitious life+work. Learn more at: sustainableambition.com/planner2022

First, Sustainable Ambition is aspirational. It asks us to hold two opposing ideas—sustain and stretch—at the same time. How can we sustain ourselves (sustainable), while stretching ourselves (ambition)? That implies it is a practice that calls for perspective, personalization, pacing, and patience. And that admittedly means it isn’t easy! That is where this series comes in.

Over 4-weeks, Kathy will guide you through exercises to create a plan to help you manage a more sustainable life+work over the coming months. The goal is to create awareness and structures that foster the ability to dance in our dynamic world, learning how to both stretch and sustain ourselves. How? By knowing ourselves better, defining our own Life+Work Resilience Rx (prescription), creating a plan, practicing, and progressing over time.

Here’s a review of the series and this episode is Part 3:

  • Part #1: My Ambitions: My Next 12 Months - In this first episode, Kathy shares exercises to help you set a vision and your intentions for the coming year. What are your ambitions?

  • Part #2: My Sustainable: My Life+Work Resilience Rx - In the second episode, we’ll explore what would make your life+work sustainable—what is your personal Life+Work Resilience Rx?

  • Part #3: My 12-Month Planner + 6-Month Horizon - In the third episode, we’ll pull out our calendars and create a 12-month plan considering what you need on your calendar to allow you to stretch and sustain yourself.

  • Part #4: Quarter 1 + Monthly Planning - We’ll close the series in episode four creating our aim for the first quarter of the year and setting you up to act and then assess and adapt as you reflect at the end of the first quarter to keep you operating at your best throughout the year.

Kathy will come back each quarter to do a review with you and will come back at the end of the year for a 12-month review to see what we learned about building our own life+work resilience.

While a sustainable and ambitious life+work is aspirational, the journey may not always be easy along the way. Yet, we believe we can do it and find our way. We can take back control and be in choice to build a more sustainable life+work.

Here’s to a sustainable+ambitious 2022!

P.S. If you’d like to do this work with others, consider creating a circle of friends or professional colleagues to plan and learn together. Doing this work as part of a community can support you in setting intentions, holding yourself accountable, providing encouragement, and learning together along the way. Find guides for a Planning Circle or Workshop at Work at: sustainableambition.com/planner2022

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43. On Planning a More Sustainable+Ambitious Year: Part 2 with Kathy Oneto

Overview

Join Kathy Oneto, host and founder of Sustainable Ambition, for a 4-part series to help you plan a more sustainable+ambitious year ahead. We’ll explore what will be stretching for you and what will sustain you.

This series coincides with the upcoming launch of the Sustainable Ambition 12-Month Workbook+Planner: Your Life+Work Resilience Rx. The workbook+planner offers inquiries, exercises, and planning tools to help you lead a fulfilling, sustainable, and ambitious life+work. Learn more at: sustainableambition.com/planner2022

First, Sustainable Ambition is aspirational. It asks us to hold two opposing ideas—sustain and stretch—at the same time. How can we sustain ourselves (sustainable), while stretching ourselves (ambition)? That implies it is a practice that calls for perspective, personalization, pacing, and patience. And that admittedly means it isn’t easy! That is where this series comes in.

Over 4-weeks, Kathy will guide you through exercises to create a plan to help you manage a more sustainable life+work over the coming months. The goal is to create awareness and structures that foster the ability to dance in our dynamic world, learning how to both stretch and sustain ourselves. How? By knowing ourselves better, defining our own Life+Work Resilience Rx (prescription), creating a plan, practicing, and progressing over time.

Here’s a review of the series and this episode is Part #2:

  • Part #1: My Ambitions: My Next 12 Months - In this first episode, Kathy shares exercises to help you set a vision and your intentions for the coming year. What are your ambitions?

  • Part #2: My Sustainable: My Life+Work Resilience Rx - In the second episode, we’ll explore what would make your life+work sustainable—what is your personal Life+Work Resilience Rx?

  • Part #3: My 12-Month Planner + 6-Month Horizon - In the third episode, we’ll pull out our calendars and create a 12-month plan considering what you need on your calendar to allow you to stretch and sustain yourself.

  • Part #4: Quarter 1 + Monthly Planning - We’ll close the series in episode four creating our aim for the first quarter of the year and setting you up to act and then assess and adapt as you reflect at the end of the first quarter to keep you operating at your best throughout the year.

Kathy will come back each quarter to do a review with you and will come back at the end of the year for a 12-month review to see what we learned about building our own life+work resilience.

While a sustainable and ambitious life+work is aspirational, the journey may not always be easy along the way. Yet, we believe we can do it and find our way. We can take back control and be in choice to build a more sustainable life+work.

Here’s to a sustainable+ambitious 2022!

P.S. If you’d like to do this work with others, consider creating a circle of friends or professional colleagues to plan and learn together. Doing this work as part of a community can support you in setting intentions, holding yourself accountable, providing encouragement, and learning together along the way. Find guides for a Planning Circle or Workshop at Work at: sustainableambition.com/planner2022

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42. On Planning a More Sustainable+Ambitious Year: Part 1 with Kathy Oneto

Overview

Join Kathy Oneto, host and founder of Sustainable Ambition, for a 4-part series to help you plan a more sustainable+ambitious year ahead. We’ll explore what will be stretching for you and what will sustain you.

This series coincides with the upcoming launch of the Sustainable Ambition 12-Month Workbook+Planner: Your Life+Work Resilience Rx. The workbook+planner offers inquiries, exercises, and planning tools to help you lead a fulfilling, sustainable, and ambitious life+work. Learn more at: sustainableambition.com/planner2022

First, Sustainable Ambition is aspirational. It asks us to hold two opposing ideas—sustain and stretch—at the same time. How can we sustain ourselves (sustainable), while stretching ourselves (ambition)? That implies it is a practice that calls for perspective, personalization, pacing, and patience. And that admittedly means it isn’t easy! That is where this series comes in.

Over 4-weeks, Kathy will guide you through exercises to create a plan to help you manage a more sustainable life+work over the coming months. The goal is to create awareness and structures that foster the ability to dance in our dynamic world, learning how to both stretch and sustain ourselves. How? By knowing ourselves better, defining our own Life+Work Resilience Rx (prescription), creating a plan, practicing, and progressing over time.

Here’s a review of the series:

  • Part #1: My Ambitions: My Next 12 Months - In this first episode, Kathy shares exercises to help you set a vision and your intentions for the coming year. What are your ambitions?

  • Part #2: My Sustainable: My Life+Work Resilience Rx - In the second episode, we’ll explore what would make your life+work sustainable—what is your personal Life+Work Resilience Rx?

  • Part #3: My 12-Month Planner + 6-Month Horizon - In the third episode, we’ll pull out our calendars and create a 12-month plan considering what you need on your calendar to allow you to stretch and sustain yourself.

  • Part #4: Quarter 1 + Monthly Planning - We’ll close the series in episode four creating our aim for the first quarter of the year and setting you up to act and then assess and adapt as you reflect at the end of the first quarter to keep you operating at your best throughout the year.

Kathy will come back each quarter to do a review with you and will come back at the end of the year for a 12-month review to see what we learned about building our own life+work resilience.

While a sustainable and ambitious life+work is aspirational, the journey may not always be easy along the way. Yet, we believe we can do it and find our way. We can take back control and be in choice to build a more sustainable life+work.

Here’s to a sustainable+ambitious 2022!

P.S. If you’d like to do this work with others, consider creating a circle of friends or professional colleagues to plan and learn together. Doing this work as part of a community can support you in setting intentions, holding yourself accountable, providing encouragement, and learning together along the way. Find guides for a Planning Circle or Workshop at Work at: sustainableambition.com/planner2022

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41. On Closing Out the Year & Welcoming 2022 with Kathy Oneto

Overview

In this solo episode, host Kathy Oneto asks you to give yourself permission to pause and reflect to honor the past year. Join her for nine questions to close out the year and welcome 2022.

You may want to listen while out on a walk, pausing to note observations, or sit down with your favorite beverage and a journal at hand. Or, check out the Google document provided (see the show notes) to capture your reflections and insights.

Here’s to acknowledging 2021 and starting fresh in 2022!

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40. On A Strategic Job Search that Works with Claudia Miller

Overview

Today I’m joined by Claudia Miller, a career coach who helps clients land interviews and jobs with impressive pay raises. Claudia offers a strategic job search approach with easy steps that gets results. If you’re in the midst of searching for your next role or want to be prepared for the next time you do, listen to this episode.

In the conversation, Claudia shares some of her tips to set you up for a successful job search and have you stand out from other candidates. It starts with having the right mindset and then spending time “sharpening the axe,” as Claudia would say. Preparation and practice go a long way to help you show up confidently and know how to handle any potential objections. My take is that Claudia is a champion for reaching for what you want for yourself and career, trusting you have what it takes or actively securing the skill sets for that next dream role, and deploying the right job search and interview strategy to command the attention you deserve from employers.

Thanks so much for being on and sharing your insights and expertise with us, Claudia!

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39. On Rethinking & Shaping Your Time with Kathy Oneto

Overview

In today’s modern world with its never-ending demands, we can be left feeling like time controls us more than we control our time.

But what if time is an illusion as Albert Einstein said? What if we can rethink our time to support us rather than control us? What if we shift our modern perspective of time and see it as simply a construct that can be reshaped? Because our current ways of working with time can often shackle us to unproductive ways of being and living our lives.

That’s what host and founder of Sustainable Ambition, Kathy Oneto, explores in this solo episode, offering three ways of thinking about time to shift it from something with negative associations and a sense of grasping for time towards one that’s more positive, playful, and powerful and puts you back in control.

Play with these concepts as we close out the year and start 2022, because your time is yours. How can you rethink and reshape it to make your life+work more sustainable?

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38. On Parenthood+Work & Mindful Returns with Lori Mihalich-Levin

Overview

I was thrilled to be joined by Lori Mihalich-Levin, founder and CEO of Mindful Return, to talk about parenthood+work and helping parents navigate this stage in life and career. Lori champions parents having a more mindful return back to the office after welcoming a baby and offers an e-course that supports parents through the transition. And, her research shows that it delivers results!

In the conversation, we talk about the role of work during this stage in life, how work and life enrich each other, and how being a parent makes us better professionals. Lori shares narratives that need to change, how this stage brings up challenges with professional and personal identity, and the importance of community to support building resilience. Lori offers her own practices that have helped her in making working parenthood more sustainable, encourages parents to avoid comparison, and counsels to not worry about missing out and instead trust in the abundance of opportunities in the world.

There are a lot of great tips in this episode for expecting parents and employers who want to better support and retain working parents. Look also for a new program in the coming year from Mindful Return that will be for any working parent struggling with juggling it all. And even if you aren’t a parent, I think this episode still holds insights that can be considered as part of building a more sustainable life+work.

Thank you for the great work you are doing in the world, Lori, and for sharing your wisdom with us!

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37. On A Challenge to Grant Yourself Permission with Kathy Oneto

Overview

In this short episode, Kathy Oneto, host and founder of Sustainable Ambition, talks about the concept of permission and how it has been showing up a lot for her of late. It inspired her to jump on and share a challenge with you for the coming week and/or holiday months.

That challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to ask yourself and act on: What permission do you want to grant yourself? And: What permission might you grant yourself to stretch yourself? What permission might you grant yourself to sustain yourself?

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36. On Embracing the Messiness & Success of Career Journeys with Will Schafer

Overview

It was so wonderful to be in conversation with Will Schafer, VP of International Marketing at Beyond Meat, where he's been for 7 years through the company’s early growth and IPO. While you might assume in seeing Will’s current title that his career had a straight line, it’s instead been a journey mixed with corporate stints, sabbaticals, business school, consulting, and intentionally putting himself on a path that aligned with his values and would give his work meaning.

There are a lot of nuggets of wisdom in Will’s journey, including accepting the messiness of career paths, embracing a growth mindset, and proactively managing the jumping from lily pad to lily pad to get you where you want to be. I also love the final quote he mentions from Martin Luther King Jr.: “You don't have to see the full staircase, just take the first step.” It’s a great reminder from Will: change only happens step by step.

Thanks so much for being on, Will, and being open with your journey. It’s an inspiration!

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35. On Good Risk, Lifestyle Design, & Courage to Step Off the Path with Mike Murgatroyd

Overview

In this episode, I’m joined by my good friend, Mike Murgatroyd. Mike is one of the people I talk to and love to seek wisdom from when making decisions about my own life and career. He’s supported me in finding my way towards more Sustainable Ambition. So, I wanted to have him on to hear more about his own journey and how he makes decisions about his career and life.

It’s not been an easy journey for Mike to find fulfilling work, continually fighting the need to be responsible and have security balanced with his desire to grow and learn. Mike is an early entrepreneur who has over time learned to dance with risk and define “good risk” to finally become an entrepreneur later in his career. Beyond career, Mike shares his philosophies and approach to lifestyle design and how for him work and personal life aren’t separate. He sees life as a “series of projects” and the integration of both being what allows him to sustain himself.

In Mike being open and sharing his story, I hope you find inspiration to get to know yourself and build the courage (as Mike shares in his final piece of advice) to consider taking a divergent path if that “path less taken” is calling you. As Mike said: “Have the courage to go out there and create an extraordinary life for yourself and those that you love, whatever that is to you.” And: “That’s the goal—it is to spend our time and not pass it.”

I knew I’d love this conversation, and I did! Thank you for being on and sharing your journey with us, Mike!

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34. On Flourishing at Work in Community & with Experimentation with Amy Bonsall

Overview

In this episode, I’m joined by Amy Bonsall, founder and CEO of Nau, a business designed to support teams and individuals in flourishing at work.

And in this conversation that’s exactly what we delve into—what does it take to flourish at work? Amy shares three areas she focuses on in her work with organizations and groups around connection, adaptability, and fair potential, pointing out what we as individuals can work on and what needs to be supported by organizations. We talk about the impact of the pandemic and the need to build back boundaries, routines, and rituals into our work norms. Hailing from IDEO, it’s not surprising to hear Amy champion experimentation and prototyping as we step into this new hybrid work environment, its benefit being to de-risk trying solutions and always being open to adapt to what’s not working. And in support of Sustainable Ambition, Amy speaks to the need to build rest and recovery into every day, not just waiting for a vacation.

I love how Amy shares great stories in this episode, pulling from her work experiences, as well as research that supports her counsel and the work she does.

I so enjoyed this conversation with you, Amy! Thank you for the wonderful work you are doing in the world to support people flourishing at work at a time when we all desperately need it.

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33. On Get Done What You Want to Get Done (AKA GSD!) with Kathy Oneto

Overview

Are you an ambitious person who gets inspired to do a lot? You have multiple ideas, get excited about a lot of projects, and can’t help yourself but take them on? It can easily happen when you’re engaged and motivated. But often in those situations, you might start to feel frustrated when you find yourself not making as much progress as you’d like, because your plate is so full.

So in that situation, how do you Get Done What You Want to Get Done?

Join Kathy Oneto, host and founder of Sustainable Ambition, to explore this topic, or as she jokingly talks about how do you Get Shit Done! (Listen in to find out!) She offers 10 tips on how we can get into action on the things we really want to do.

She closes by answering a listener question, “How do you stay motivated?”

As you dig into this last quarter of the year, find inspiration to get done what you want to get done. And then if you’re lacking motivation, perhaps Kathy’s tips can help inspire you to find renewed motivation, as well.

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32. On Building Endurance for Work+Life & Effective Leadership with Katie Ceccarini

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I’m thrilled to be joined in this episode by Katie Ceccarini, founder of Endurance Management Coaching. She is an executive coach and trainer who works with leaders to empower their vision and unleash their strengths. She is also an endurance athlete and mom.

In this conversation, we cover a lot of ground. Katie first shares her own career journey and her career transition to becoming a business owner, trainer, and coach. She shares what prompted her to leave Corporate, lean into what was drawing her next, and how a shift in life stage coupled with the pandemic led her to think differently about the work+life she wanted to craft for herself.

We delve into leadership and the work that Katie does as a coach. She shares tips on improving leader effectiveness and shares one of her pet peeves, the focus on “fake it till you make it.” She’d say it’s much more powerful to be vulnerable, be genuinely curious, and find footing in purpose and making it matter.

We close with some wise tips on how Katie leads a full life while staying in sync with her life vision and keeping herself sustained and whole.

Thanks so much for being on with me, Katie! SO many good, clear tenets you share in this episode for people to take forward and apply in their lives, careers, and as leaders.

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31. On Playing the Long Game with Dorie Clark

Overview

On this episode, I was honored to be joined by Dorie Clark to discuss her latest book, The Long Game, that was released on September 21, 2021. If you are seeking to build a sustainable, enduring, fulfilling career from decade to decade, The Long Game is a must on your reading list! And in this conversation, we delve into why Dorie’s concepts have such application to building Sustainable Ambition.

In the book, Dorie demonstrates how doing away with short term thinking and instead taking the long view can help us achieve any goal we set out for ourselves. Anything is possible if you have the courage and strategic patience, as Dorie says, to play the long game. Dorie shows us the way from making the time to put against the goals that will fulfill you to the strategies to win at playing the long game to tips to keep the faith.

In our conversation here, we talk about being realistic about the length of time it takes to reach our goals, how the long game can take courage yet also be freeing, the importance of setting a vision, how long-term thinking and the strategies Dorie lays out apply to any stage in one’s career, and much more.

Thanks so much for your incredible work and being on to share your insights with us, Dorie! I loved the conversation.

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30. On Work + Life as a Breadwinning Woman with Bethanie Baynes

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Today I’m joined by Bethanie Baynes, a tireless women’s advocate and recognized leader on the topic of breadwinning women and host of the podcast, “Working Wife, Happy Life.” A proud breadwinning woman herself, Bethanie has created awareness, built community, and provided resources for women who are the sole or primary earners for their households.

In this conversation, we dive into what it means to be a breadwinner and how societal constructs limit women in not seeing themselves in this role. We explore the question of “how to manage it all” (or not!), and Bethanie passes on some great advice on how to set boundaries and signal to people how we can best be utilized both at work and at home. Importantly, she reminds us of the power in giving ourselves and others grace. And given Bethanie’s own experience and leading a community of 3,000 breadwinning women at Google, she offers tips on how to navigate bucking societal norms in taking on different roles within a household and encourages us to lean into resistance and difficult conversations.

I loved having you on, Bethanie! Such great wisdom to share with all of us. And thank you for all you do to break down societal constructs to help women AND men step into the roles that are most powerful for them and support them in building fulfilling lives on their terms.

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29. On Permission to Glow & Epic Leadership with Kristoffer Carter

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In this episode, I’m speaking with Kristoffer Carter (“KC”) who is a spiritual teacher at the intersection of consciousness and business. He is the founder of This Epic Life, a website and podcast devoted to conscious living, which has created a daily meditation practice for thousands. We discuss KC’s new book, “Permission to Glow: A Spiritual Guide to Epic Leadership.” The book is available for pre-order on September 7 and comes out on October 5.

Don’t get scared off by this episode if you aren’t a spiritual person! I suggest you be open to the power of what KC is “preaching.” This is all about ways to open ourselves up to truly lead in all aspects of our lives and do so in a way that is sustainable. KC might say this is “soul level work,” and it’s about being able to show up in your life as your true, unapologetic self and to allow others to do the same.

So if you’re looking to up your leadership game in any area of your life and to find more capacity for what life is throwing at you, then KC’s 4 Permissions™ framework can help unlock new potential and give you insight into building more Sustainable Ambition.

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28. On Where Did My Ambition Go? with Kathy Oneto (A Solo Episode)

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Are you like me and wondering this summer, “Where did my ambition go?!” Ugh. Perhaps we are still in the pandemic’s “languishing” fog, as Adam Grant brought to our attention earlier this year. Some of us may simply be exhausted and need to restore ourselves. Or, maybe life is rightly pulling your attention towards other pressing personal matters.

And yet, there can be other reasons why our ambition might wane. In this solo episode, host Kathy Oneto offers tips on ways to help find your way back to your ambition and flourishing.

This might be a perfect way to focus a bit of attention at the end of summer to help you find renewed energy as you enter the Fall season.

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27. On Finding Joy as a Digital Entrepreneur at 55+ with Anne LaFollette

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In this episode, I’m joined by Anne LaFollette, the founder of Anne LaFollette Art, a thriving digital business centered around surface pattern design. Anne found her way to this work after a 25+ year career in corporate with retailers such as Esprit, The Gap, and Old Navy.

Anne’s story is one of Sustainable Ambition, as she forged a new path for herself and opened a new door building a creative business when the corporate door closed in her 50’s. Having an unexpressed love of art that manifested in a collection of art supplies purchased over the years and with a nudge from her husband and mother, Anne found her way towards a creative business that is both successful and brings her a tremendous amount of joy.

Listen in to hear about Anne’s journey and her counsel to achieve Sustainable Ambition both in managing through a career transition and in the day-to-day, finding a more sustainable work-life while still being ambitious.

Thank you so much for being on, Anne! It was wonderful to speak with you!

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26. On Re-Writing Your Work Re-Entry with Kathy Oneto (A Solo Episode)

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As we start to look out past the end of this month and think about heading back-to-work (as kids head back-to-school, too), Kathy Oneto, Founder of Sustainable Ambition, wanted to provide some thoughts on how to step into this “new normal,” when it comes to going back to the office. Of course, the Delta variant is throwing some kinks into our re-entry plans, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be thinking about how you want to structure your work-life going forward.

In this episode, Kathy offers tips to help you re-write your re-entry on your terms and help you ask for what you need and want to build a more sustainable work-life.

A consideration if you usually listen to these episodes driving or walking… This might be an episode that you actually want to listen to as part of a quiet mini-strategy session for yourself. Consider listening and going through the prompts, pausing to capture your notes as you go along. Or, if you prefer, listen and take what you want from the episode and apply Kathy’s suggestions in whatever way best serves you.

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