25. On Burnout, Focus, & Gaining Confidence in Networks with Philip VanDusen

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Today I’m joined again by friend, mentor, and business colleague Philip VanDusen for Part 2 of our conversation. Philip was one of my first guests in Episode #6, and I ran out of time with him. As I mentioned then, he is one of my favorite people to talk to, and I seek him out often for his wisdom, so I wanted to have him back.

In this episode, I wanted to explore Philip’s thoughts on burnout, the issue with confidence that many, especially creative people, are experiencing during the pandemic, which he’s been witnessing amongst his community, and how he has sustained his own ambition over time. We also touch on how to maintain focus and discern between intentional use of time and procrastination. Philip would say, "Stop puttering!"

Philip has held esteemed roles in his creative career, such as VP Design at Old Navy and Pepsico, as well as serving as an Executive Creative Director on the agency side. After Corporate life, Philip went out on his own and now runs his own branding agency, as well as fosters a creative community. Philip offers a lot of free content to creatives and entrepreneurs, has a community to help reduce isolation and build confidence, and offers courses, which I encourage you to check out.

Philip—thanks for all you do in sharing your learning with all of us and showing us the way towards building sustainable, rewarding careers and businesses!

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24. On Cutting Back on Demands & Expectations with Kathy Oneto (A Summer Solo Episode)

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In this solo episode, I offer 3 challenges to help you cut back on demands and expectations so you can create more space in your life for summer and going forward.

I read an article on burnout from The Economist’s 1843 magazine by Josh Cohen who is a psychoanalyst, academic, and writer. And he had this to say at the end, “Burnout is not simply a symptom of working too hard. It is also the body and mind crying out for an essential human need: a space free from the incessant demands and expectations of the world…. The amelioration of burnout begins in finding your own pool of tranquility where you can cool off.”

So, the intent of this episode is to help us find that pool of tranquility Cohen describes, which is perfect for this overly hot summer. How do we allow ourselves to cool off, as he notes? How do we cut down on all the demands and expectations of the world?

Try these challenges to help.

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23. On Well-Being & Taking Back Control of your Day with Liz Koehler & Clare Davenport

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In this episode, I’m joined by Liz Koehler and Clare Davenport, both who are experts in positive psychology and well-being. They conducted research around addressing well-being amid constant choice and change rooted in positive psychology. This topic is so important right now in the age of the pandemic and post-pandemic. According to a 2020 Deloitte Global Human Capital Trends study, well-being was the top-ranked trend that year even before the pandemic fully hit us, and in a more recent study individual workers rank “improving worker well-being” in the top 3 of initiatives for work transformation efforts over the next 1-3 years.

What’s great about what Liz and Clare share is how we can take small actions to take back control of our days and improve our well-being. They also share how doing this for oneself can have ripple effects to those around you, both through how you are able to then operate better but also through one’s own modeling of behaviors that prioritize and improve well-being.

Thank you so much for sharing your learning and counsel, Liz and Clare! There are insights here for all of us to get into action with small changes that can make a big impact for our individual and collective well-being.

If you want to get in touch, find Liz on LinkedIn (Elizabeth Koehler) and Clare at her company, Designing4Better: designing4better.com.

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22. On Ditching Imposter Syndrome with Clare Josa

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Join me for this brilliant and action-packed episode with Clare Josa, an expert on and author of, “Ditching Imposter Syndrome.” We talk about the definition of imposter syndrome and why so many of us, especially high performers, suffer from it, why it’s helpful to distinguish between imposter syndrome and self doubt, and why we need to shift from judging to evaluating. Clare also offers some great tips on how we as leaders can support employees with imposter syndrome and how we as individuals can start to gain back our personal power. And as Clare passionately rallies at the end of our conversation: “Do something. Please, I implore you! Take one action in the next 24 hours to move you towards setting yourself free from imposter syndrome.” You can do something about imposter syndrome, and thankfully Clare shows us the way.

I loved this conversation, Clare, and your book! Thank you for doing this work and helping us all find a path to being the powerful leaders we can all be.

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21. On Career Transitions & Building a Sustainable Work-Life with Cathryn Caruthers

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I was excited to speak with Cathryn Caruthers, an executive coach who specializes in working with senior and emerging leaders in navigating major career transitions.

In this conversation, Cathryn offers great tips for managing a sustainable career, dealing with impostor syndrome (or she’d call it impostor phenomenon), which most of us experience even high performers, and paying attention to what might lead to burnout.

This is a great episode for people at all stages of one’s career, as Cathryn offers tips that apply from the time you’re in college to what we should all prioritize to sustain us throughout our careers and support our ambition, the foundational elements of staying healthy physically and mentally and taking care of our relationships.

I also found Cathryn to be an inspiration for us all to really think about sustainability when we think about our careers and making choices that consider both what we want personally and professionally. What impresses me about Cathryn’s journey is how she has been so attuned to herself and paid attention to how her career needed to support the kind of life she wants to live.

I loved this conversation, Cathryn! Thank you for sharing your own career journey and your smart guidance for us all to navigate our career transitions with more confidence and ease and building more sustainable careers.

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20. On Creating Space & What will Sustain You with Kathy Oneto (A Solo Episode)

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In this solo episode, I talk about creating space and what will sustain you. The topic of sustainability, creating space, and sustaining myself has been present for me of late, so I thought I’d do a short episode on what I’ve been experiencing in the hopes that it will help you, too.

And with the official start of summer right around the corner, I think it’s a perfect time for the topic. Summer offers us a time when we typically slow down, so despite the world picking up coming out of the pandemic, I encourage you to do the opposite—create space, slow down, and invest in those activities that will sustain you and keep you at your best.

If you’re feeling like you could use a deceleration for the summer, too, just like me, and want time to further recuperate and restore, listen in and consider the questions I offer as prompts to reset your world for summer.

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19. On Keeping Your Energy & Spirit Intact with Leslie Forde

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Joining me on this episode of the podcast is Leslie Forde, founder of Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs, which researches and illuminates stress, self-care and growth for Moms, and founder of Allies @ Work, which helps employers use data to retain working parents and create inclusive workplaces where caregivers can thrive. Leslie is shedding the light on just how broken our current system is in supporting caregivers, both women and men, and offers great insights and tips for both companies and individuals to find a more sustainable way to achieve successful outcomes in both work and life.

I could have talked with Leslie for a long time! And in this conversation she shares a lot of great advice for individuals, leaders, and companies to consider to help us all have a more sustainable work-life. Leslie shares how the solution doesn’t lie in working harder or just being ruthless about prioritization; we also need to be ruthless about carving out space for those things that feed us and regenerate us so our energy and spirit can be intact.

I was thrilled to hear that Leslie is hearing progress from companies and an openness to changing corporate cultures to support “self care” and caregivers.

Thank you for your important work, Leslie, and helping individuals, managers, and companies find the way towards more sustainable work-life happiness. And thank you for sharing your advice and insights with us in this episode!

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18. On "Strong Like Water" & Leaning into Vulnerability with Laila Tarraf

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In this episode, I’m joined by Laila Tarraf, a senior human resource executive who is currently the Chief People Officer of Allbirds, a sustainable footwear and apparel brand, and the author of the recently released book, “Strong Like Water: How I found the Courage to Lead with Love in Business and in Life.” In this beautifully written book, Laila is generous with her own vulnerability in sharing her personal story so that we all can learn through her experiences of both loss and growth.

Together we talk about becoming a heart-based leader, what being “soft but strong” and “firm yet kind” looks like, and the power of leaning into discomfort. Laila shares what she learned at Peet’s Coffee about what it takes to create an environment where employees feel like they can bring their full selves to work and offers tips on both how to strengthen one’s heart as a leader and how to build Sustainable Ambition for oneself. We close by talking about the power of taking pauses, and Laila shares a favorite quote by Brother David Steindl-Rast (which I loved, too!): “You know the antidote to stress is not necessarily rest.... The antidote to stress is wholehearted living.” Amen!

I encourage you to pick up Laila’s beautiful book. Not only is it a wonderful read, it will leave you feeling inspired to lean into your own growth journey.

Thank you so much for being in conversation with me, Laila!

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17. On Getting Control of Burnout with Talia Rosenblum

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For those of us who are ambitious, it can be easy get to a point of burnout. So to live in a Sustainable Ambition way, we need to find tools to help us recognize when we’re moving towards it and to direct our energy so our work doesn’t unintentionally take over our life, as I say around Right Effort, the third pillar of Sustainable Ambition.

So, I was thrilled to speak with Talia Rosenblum who specializes in working with people who have experienced burnout and with those who want to find better work-life integration. We share a lot of philosophies and perspectives, as you’ll hear in this episode where we explore what burnout is, signals that you’re on a slippery slope to burnout, how to start to get control of your time and life, and Talia’s rallying cry to put just as much attention on building success and happiness in your personal life as in your professional life and moving from “I should” to “this is what I want to do.”

Wonderful to be in conversation with you, Talia! Appreciate all of your so helpful insights.

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16. On Creating the Life I Want with Christine Bader & Eva Dienel

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I was so excited to speak with Christine Bader and Eva Dienel about their important work at “The Life I Want.” Christine and Eva are both idealists and writers in their own right, and with this storytelling project they are telling rich stories to reframe the discussion about work in our lives.

It all starts with “The Life I Want,” not work.

And in this episode, we hear what brought each of them to reorient their own work to support their lives vs. living to work, taking them to Bali and Australia, respectively, for a period of time, as well as homesteads in Oregon.

For them, the future of work requires that we change our relationship with work, as individuals and as a society, so more people can live happier, more fulfilled lives. There are four pillars that frame their working model: 1) individual, 2) employers, 3) community, and 4) government, and we speak of each of these in this episode. While we talk about how in today’s model you need a super power to pull yourself towards working to live as opposed to living to work, finding more fulfillment for all can’t be only on the individual. They advocate that we also need safety nets to make it possible, such as employers stepping up and realizing that the work they provide employees is a product in itself, leaning on our communities, and government programs and legislation.

In this conversation, we also touch on the idea of creating your own measurements of success, the importance of valuing care in our society, and that the answers lie in fixing work for the most marginalized, as those solutions will likely work for us all.

If you want to be inspired to create a life you want and want to hear how to start to rethink what it would mean to take an alternate path, listen in and check out Christine and Eva's work at The Life I Want: https://www.thelifeiwant.co/ to read their beautiful stories of others who are showing us the way towards a brighter future of work that will work for all.

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15. On Choosing the Career & Life that is Right for Us with Mala Singh

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Mala Singh is the Chief People Officer (CPO) of Electronic Arts. I had the pleasure of working with Mala when she was Chief People Officer at Minted, and I couldn't wait to speak with her in this episode, because she's is one of the wisest people I know. Not only did I want to learn more about Mala's own career journey from British Guyana to the U.S. to a global career in HR, I also knew Mala would have great insight to share from her own experiences and from her role as a CPO on the executive team of a world class, creative organization that has had to manage through this pandemic with 25 offices around the world.

We cover a lot of ground in this conversation starting with Mala's own career, which I would say she guided by defining success for herself and making decisions that didn't necessarily always propel her upward but resonated with her desire to have certain experiences, like a global career, and to grow. Such decisions took her to places like Paris, so I myself don't think that was a bad trade-off! She offers tips on what to think about managing your career at each decade, shares how EA has cared for its employees during the pandemic, offers her forecast on whether or not we'll be going back to offices, encourages us all to be allies, and gives us tips on how to manage a full, ambitious personal and professional life.

I love what Mala had to say on all these topics. Listen in to hear her wisdom!

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14. On Managing Your $ to Support your Life with Bridget Jones

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On this episode, I’m in conversation with Bridget Jones, a finance coach and founder of Smart Sister Finance. Prior to Smart Sister, Bridget worked in finance and was an executive leader at several leading food companies where she held finance and operations leadership roles at companies like Clif Bar and Whole Foods Market.

I wanted to chat with Bridget, because finances is directly tied to work-life integration and managing our careers from decade to decade. While salary is not an intrinsic motivator, meaning the core thing that gets most of us excited about our work, the reality is our jobs pay the bills! They support our lives. And so, being wise about one's finances is important to facilitating Sustainable Ambition.

And impressively, Bridget was so good with her own finances, she met and exceeded her goal of being able to retire by the age of 50. Now, that's someone I want to talk to!

I love all the insights in this conversation about how work and finances are intertwined in creating a sustainable life. We talk about Bridget’s own career journey, why she had a goal of retiring by 50, and what surprised her most after she had downtime and recharged. We explore the importance of setting financial goals and tying those to your overall life goals - what are you working and saving for? We advocate embracing planning for what you want in your life, focusing on the big rocks and accepting that it is iterative. And, we close by covering just how important it is to talk about money. From Bridget's perspective, it’s powerful to set an intention, because it will then likely manifest.

Thanks for being on Bridget! Such an important topic and appreciate you sharing your own story and tips for people to find freedom by getting smart about their finances!

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13. On Uncertainty & Living in Not Knowing (A Solo Episode)

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On another solo episode, I share some thoughts on a topic that has come up a lot over the last year during the pandemic… And that is the concept of living in not knowing. What does “living in not knowing” even mean? It means living in uncertainty. Not being clear on a path, say, or having the answer. It’s a weird liminal state. The challenge is that we are wired to want to know. We want certainty. And, when we don’t have that, it causes consternation and stress.

Why is this important to the concept of Sustainable Ambition? Because I talk about the idea of crafting a career to support your life from decade to decade, which implies we will go through many transitions over the course of our adulthood. And it’s in transitions, that we live in moments of uncertainty and not knowing. During such times, we can often feel unmoored and unclear.

In this episode, I share 15 lessons on what I’ve learned through my own experiences to survive and thrive during uncertainty and growth stages. I hope my sharing of these insights and tools that have provided me with guidance and relief can help you in finding some peace, as well as enrichment and joy, as we all wade through this time of uncertainty. Because in the end, while periods of not knowing have been some of the toughest for me, they’ve also been some of the most enriching of my life. I wish the same for you.

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12. On Your Second Half & Leaning into Growth with Stephanie Carter

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I loved being in conversation with Stephanie Carter, founder of The Verse, a media platform designed and delivered by grown-ups, for grown-ups, built on real talk; action-ready, beyond-the-masses tips; and original ideas. In founding The Verse, Stephanie realized she was one in an army of grown-ups seeking reinvention, and she hopes that by sharing her setbacks and wins, she can help people to view their second half with optimism and excitement.

And this is what we delve into in this conversation. If you're wondering what's next for your second act, listen in. We cover everything from the importance of paying attention to the voice telling you that something new is on the horizon, getting started on figuring out what's next sooner than you think, getting help working with a coach, and leaning into a beginner's mindset. Stephanie knows what it's like to step away from being a master in one's discipline and she encourages us to embrace growth no matter your age and get comfortable with not being good as we learn new things.

And if you're earlier in your career, take Stephanie's advice to take more risk (this is becoming a theme on the podcast!) and if you're in your 30's and 40's look and plan ahead.

So much wisdom packed into this interview! Thank you for being on, Stephanie!

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11. On Finding Career Clarity & Permission with Lisa Lewis Miller

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In this conversation, I welcome Lisa Lewis Miller, career change expert, author, and founder of Career Clarity, a company helping individuals step into the careers they've been dreaming of. If you are someone who exclaims, “I don’t know what I want to do with my life!,” then this is the episode for you! Lisa offers a foolproof way to uncover your internal wisdom, because as she shares, you are the only one who knows. The answer isn’t “out there” or with anyone else. And a key theme of our conversation is permission—to explore what’s possible, to go for what you want, and to embrace our desire to learn and grow throughout our career.

And if you are feeling unhappy with your job during the pandemic and not listening to that voice in your head, or as Lisa would advise listening to what your body is telling you, because you feel like you should just be grateful to have a job, listen to Lisa to find encouragement and hope that there are still opportunities out there for you to find your career fulfillment.

I had so many more questions I could have asked Lisa, so I encourage you to explore her book and podcast. Find more in the detailed show notes!

Thanks for being on with me, Lisa, and sharing such deep, empowering perspectives!

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10. On So, what is Sustainable Ambition™? (My First Solo Episode!)

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This is my first solo episode! I thought I’d share with you just what I mean by Sustainable Ambition and why I think it’s an important concept for us to consider when managing our careers, especially in today’s world. I’ve been working on this concept for the last 5 years and likely have been living it all my adult life without realizing it until a few years ago.

So, for grounding, at a high level, Sustainable Ambition is about crafting a fulfilling career to support your life from decade to decade… with the end goal being to experience more fulfillment in your professional and personal life with more ease, while still being ambitious.

In the episode, I talk about what inspired the model, some high-level thoughts on Sustainable Ambition, and then go deeper into the model. The Sustainable Ambition Method has 3 pillars: Right Success, Right Aspiration, and Right Effort. I discuss each pillar and share how they are about: defining Personal Reward, creating a Regenerative Career, and building Work-Life Resilience, respectively.

Thanks for being with me for my first solo episode, everyone! I hope you find it helpful to learn a bit more about Sustainable Ambition. Cheers!

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9. On A Year Off & Deviating from the Norm with David Brown

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Joining me on this episode is friend, author, and traveler David Brown. David and I met working in the marketing and branding world, but we also have another thing in common. We both took time off and traveled. Shhhh! Don't tell anyone!

David and his wife, Alexandra, took a year off traveling the world and then chronicled their journey and learning in a beautiful book, “A Year Off: A story about traveling the world—and how to make it happen for you.”

I wanted to talk with David about his experience of taking time off, in addition to talking about general career satisfaction and walking your own path. In the end, David shares more about the impact of what he learned from traveling and shares wonderful insights for those of us who follow more non-traditional career paths.

David talks about the importance of paying attention, being present to your life and experiences, and that it’s okay to carve your own path leaning into who you are. He states so beautifully, “There really isn’t a sustainable option other than to be yourself.”

Now, I know that during the pandemic, we’re all not traveling. But I think David shares good lessons regardless of how you travel (meaning daydreaming or side jaunts!), and I think at this moment in this pandemic we could all use a little dreaming about what a pause might look like. Also, David and Alexandra’s book includes beautiful photography throughout, so I encourage you to pick it up to carry you abroad now while we’re hunkered in place.

A final thing I will note, as I ran out of time to discuss this with David, is the lasting impact that travel has. Dr. Rick Hanson talks about building resilience by having an experience and embedding it within you. I love his advice and I know for myself, I consistently go back to my memories of my extended travel, and it sustains me and fills me up. I still call upon my travels and its reserves. It is the gift I have given myself that keeps on giving. David also shares, “It was such a good decision. I loved it!”

And, David - I loved our conversation and so appreciate your wisdom! Thanks for being on with me.

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8. On Paying Attention & Knowing Your Strengths with Maghan Haggerty

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In this episode, I’m joined by Maghan Haggerty, founder of Connecting Dots Coaching & Consulting and a Gallup Certified Strengths Coach. I wanted to have Maghan on the show to share her wisdom on the importance of tapping into your strengths to help you find more work fulfillment. One of Sustainable Ambition's pillars is Right Success, which is about defining success on your terms and defining your own personal reward. I believe a key component of that is leaning into your strengths, especially those that put you into flow.

So, you'll hear in my early interviewing days that I'm very CURIOUS about what Maghan has to share! She talks about the importance of leaning into one’s strengths, how to define them (they are the activities not just that we are good at, but that we have an affinity for), as well as how our strengths can at times turn into weaknesses. We talk about Gallup's CliftonStrengths Assessment, which Maghan is certified in administering, and how the philosophy is such that the strengths can be applied to any profession, because they are about how we interact in the world.

Another important theme you hear us talk about throughout the episode is PAY ATTENTION! If there's one thing to take away, that is it. Don’t go blindly through your career. Pay attention.

I hope in listening to Maghan you get convinced of the importance of investing in identifying your strengths, and even more importantly working to determine how to bring them into your everyday life experiences.

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7. On Powerfully Managing your Career & Talent Mobility with Amber Beam

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Joining me on this episode of the Sustainable Ambition Podcast is Amber Beam, a collaborator and fellow career coach who brings wisdom around managing your career over time, especially for mid-career changers.

Amber tells us about the importance of continual learning in today’s market environment, advocates burning the proverbial career ladder, and instead champions managing one’s career through lateral moves and creating a portfolio of experiences or gigs to progress you forward towards your goals. She shares her concept around talent mobility, The Growth Effect, and is an advocate for employees and employers to get past old structures and norms to create more growth for both parties. Amber drops many wisdom bombs in this episode, including great advice on how to manage your career in your 20’s, 30’s and 40’s.

It's hard not to have a good time being in conversation with Amber, so I hope you appreciate her enthusiasm and encouragement to build a career with more flexibility and growth no matter your stage and age. Really, Amber’s energy is quite infectious!

Thank you for sharing so many great insights, Amber! I loved being in conversation with you!

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6. On Navigating Careers & Building Your Personal Brand with Philip VanDusen

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In this episode of the Sustainable Ambition Podcast, I’m joined by friend, mentor, and business colleague Philip VanDusen. Philip is one of my favorite people to talk to, and I seek him out often for his wisdom. Philip has held esteemed roles in his creative career, such as VP Design at Old Navy and Pepsico, as well as serving as an Executive Creative Director on the agency side. After Corporate life, Philip went out on his own and now runs his own branding agency, as well as fosters a creative community. Philip offers a lot of free content to creatives and entrepreneurs, which I encourage you to check out (with links below in the resources section).

I wanted to talk to Philip and hear his insights on navigating a career over time, what it’s like to jump out of a traditional corporate gig and into entrepreneurship, and why, when and how one should build a personal brand. As you’ll hear, we cover a lot of ground, and I still didn’t get to ask him everything on my list! I’ll definitely have to have Philip back again.

I hope you find the conversation as enjoyable as I did. Thank you for sharing all your wisdom with us, Philip!

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