59. Part 2: On Building a Work Life after Corporate Life with Kathy Oneto & Philip VanDusen

Overview

In this episode, I’m excited to be joined by my good friend and mentor, Philip VanDusen, whose been on the podcast with me two times before. Philip comes back to join me for this 5-part series on Building a Work Life after Corporate Life. How do you leave corporate and move into self-employment or starting a business? Our intent with this series is to create a guide to going out on your own.

This became a topic for The Sustainable Ambition Podcast based on a listener request, and I thought who better to discuss this with than Philip. Both of us have had 25+ year careers in Corporate and then went out on our own and even have a shared journey on our post-Corporate path that will share along the way.

The series will be aired here on The Sustainable Ambition Podcast, as well as on Philip’s podcast, Brand Design Masters.

In Part 2 of the series, we talk about recognizing it’s time to go and how to go.

In this conversation, we share our own experiences with stepping out on our own, talk about the importance of paying attention to the internal and external signals you might be noticing that are telling you that leaving Corporate might be a good next step for you, acknowledge that transitions can take time, and importantly share how to leave to best support you on your next adventure.

Great discussion, Philip! On to Part 3 in the series! Next up: What to do before you leave.

More About Our Guest

Philip VanDusen is a creative entrepreneur and owner of Verhaal Brand Design a branding agency based in New Jersey, USA. As a thought leader, Philip shares his expertise in marketing, design, and entrepreneurship on YouTube to his 250k subscribers, in his Brand•Muse newsletter, on the Brand Design Masters podcast, and in his Brand Design Masters Facebook community.

In his career, Philip has led creative teams on both the client and agency-sides— serving as VP of Design for PepsiCo and Old Navy and Executive Creative Director at the iconic branding firm Landor Associates. Past clients include a host of Fortune 100 companies.

Topics Covered

  • Philip and Kathy share their own personal stories of what drew them to go out on their own, each with different experiences with different cadences and triggers. Kathy’s was drawn out through her ambitions shifting, while Philip had a life event that pulled him into entrepreneurship and redefined his relationship with work.

  • What might contribute to the wanderlust to leave Corporate?

  • Are there signals you might be missing now?

  • We acknowledge that transitions can take time.

  • We each tested and found our way to what we are doing now. You may start and test a few things along the way until you find the path that is right for you. And then it might change again!

  • We close with discussing how to leave your Corporate gig. Don’t burn bridges. Maintain strong relationships. Build relationships with cross-functional relationships. Have your narrative ready.

Resources Mentioned

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59. Part 2: On Building a Work Life after Corporate Life with Kathy Oneto & Philip VanDusen

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